He took two tests and there was deception detected in BOTH. Patricia was relieved when police took him for custody after 12 years of her daughter's murder. The missing hairs probably got destroyed in testing.. thats how they test them.. and reports are wrong all the time. Yassein Said, 59, is guilty of conspiring to hide his older brother, Yaser Said, as authorities sought him in connection with the New Years Day slayings. I mean the husband did do some shady things maybe he was involved? In your future life in prison I trust that not a day goes by in which you won't revisit your crime.". Patricia and her defense team denied that allegation and said she owned her home, had no financial issues and that Jerome was dying of liver cancer and only had 60 days to live. Her sister stated shed had a religious obsession since she was a child. Yet they insisted in the trial that the call came in on the 13th. This article seems to have a great many errors and omissions, more by design, I fancy, than a need to tell the story objectively. DALLAS Yaser Said, once listed as one of the most wanted men in America, has been found guilty of killing his two teenage daughters. And about the only thing from your comment with which I can agree, is you saying thats not proof theyre right in reference to their verdict. I really never thought of it again.. I can only suggest you read through my comments again, only more thoroughly. Im new to the case, but there seems to be a lot of reasonable doubt. Warren, who was tearful at the end of the hearing, said she is pleased with the outcome of the case, and that her office was only waiting on the outcome of Allen Prue's appeal. If not, how could Andrew have obtained samples of Patricias hair if they apparently didnt meet up in person after Andrews marriage? Both sides agree Joann hung up on Patricia. Jenkins was a teacher at St. Johnsbury Academy. "This was not a sudden or impetuous act on your part. I want to keep the tons of old jewelry but Im perplexed. Too bad she got off with just a life sentence. "This is the 13th case solved after the creation of the cold case task force," said El Dorado County District Attorney Vern Pierson. Phone records dont lie.) The Common Sense Guy you should put yourself on top of the list of deluded people. Wow. Patricia Prue to undergo 2nd competency exam, Your California Privacy Rights / Privacy Policy. I deduced my opinion to be fact because of what Ive read and seen and is supported by evidence which was never disclosed at her trial. in journalism from the University of Southern California. If you have ever met or been in a relationship with a narcissist, the former partner being with a more young and attractive-looking person would make them go off. And Patricia wasnt all edges. Amina was 18 years old and was shot two times and Sarah was 17 Oh my God. Are you even aware theres a strong suspicion that evidence of the hair, which was DNA matched to her, was tampered with? The Prues were accused of luring Jenkins, a single mother, from her rural home and then strangling and beating her to death. Browns action to grant clemency was rescinded after discovering that Patricia Wright had two prior felonies from when her son stole two 99-cent toys and a hand towel from an open house 15 years earlier. Flawed justice: the wrongful conviction of Kerry Baxter Sr. But hang on You ask that I show care with my wording and show all the tolerance in the world, and by that you presumably mean I should simply ignore those who villify her in the most disgraceful way, probably in the opinion that all readers of their comments will agree, and no one is going to take offence! In one entry, she writes that she has plans for people who have messed with her, and that "people will be surprised of what she is capable of," Caledonia County State's Attorney Lisa Warren said. I was so excited that I called everyone, and Joanne picked up the phone and she said Andy is married, and I said I know, then she said we have a baby, and I said yea I know, then she said dont ever call here again. She got 12 months of probation for shoplifting at a Walmart in Lexington, North Carolina. Keep her murdering ass locked up!!! Trash-talking ex. And the point the hair in her hand wasnt tested was because they didnt need it since they had the killer shame on everyone who went along with that. You know the answer to that, the same as I do, which is. WebHis ex-wife and the mother of the teens, Patricia Owens, watched Said as the judge sentenced him. Shes where she belongs in prison for the rest of her life. Traupman claimed that when he reported the dispute, trooper Robert V. Egan III got mad and practically kicked him out of his office. Above, we have another whos totally clueless, has little or no knowledge of this case, but is happy to display his/her ignorance with a rant based on limited knowledge learned from biased documentaries who thinks that by using offensive and insulting language itll influence those who support Rorrer into changing their opinions. As for Joanns parents, her father died a year after the murder. Re Routier, the claim that she inflicted a potentially fatal injury on herself by no means indicates another perp: she could have inflicted it in ignorance, as a suicide attempt, or in a semi-psychotic state. Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports is also available on YouTube, but it costs $1.99 to view (Keith comes off as an advocate for Patricias innocence on the episode). She is a tough one, Sheriff Gerald Hege would later tell the Morning Call in a June 29, 1997 interview. Yaser Said Found Guilty in Murders of Teen Daughters NBC 5 Just one example. Patricias phone bill showed no record of a call to Catasauqua that day, but police noticed she didnt make any calls at all from her house in North Carolina that day either suggesting she could have been out of state and used a pay phone to dial up the Katrinaks. Blasczyk said she escaped from East Germany as a teenager when the country was under Communist leadership. Im sorry for the distress this awful business must have caused. Alfey liked to look at model homes, so they decided to stop by an open house that was located at 13810 Redberry St. in Moreno Valley, California. In recent years, she began to share key details about her past life in Pittsburgh to nursing home staff that led A Pennsylvania woman who went missing more than 30 years ago in a case that stumped authorities who later declared her legally dead has been found living in a nursing home in Puerto Rico. The evidence is overwhelming of her guilt. "Please do the right thing for Melissa.". As to her duration on death row, no: inference cannot be made as to her guilt as theres a woman with about the same time (Holberg) and another with almost as much. There was widespread speculation that the sisters were shot in an honor killing a practice in some cultures in which men kill female relatives who are thought to have brought shame upon their families. Joanne wouldnt have fought back as she was shot therefore almost immediately incapacitating her and was holding her son. I have never seen anything this egregious in all my years.. Patricia Nope. Yaser Said was found guilty of killing his two daughters, 18-year-old Amina Said and 17-year-old Sarah Said, in 2008. The woman who was showing the home alleged that Patricia was involved in the theft. They did this case on Reasonable Doubt last night. Those that think that Patricia is innocent are simply groping at straws. Im trying to understand exactly your reasoning asking me staying away from this site because of my insulting remarks! Clive Swift: Keeping Up Appearances star dies And the obvious answer is not as you claim. None. In pleading guilty, Islam Said admitted that evidence proved he committed the crimes charged in the superseding indictment filed in November 2020. A Texas man who carried out the mass shooting at the Cielo Vista Walmart in El Paso, Texas, on Aug. 3, 2019, killing 23 people and injuring 22 more, pleaded guilty today in U.S. District Court to a 90-count indictment, including 45 counts of violating the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. . Patricia Cole, a veteran copy editor whose sharp eye, quick wit and kind heart made her a cherished colleague at NPR and other news outlets, died on Friday at age 46, By clicking Sign Up, I confirmthat I have read and agreeto the Privacy Policy and Terms of Service. 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WebTexas-born Patricia (Tissie) Said, the mother of the two girls, should long ago have been charged as an accomplice in their honor killing. Its an opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. Joanne didnt go missing until December 15, an entire week and a day later. I just watched Reasonable Dont on this case. She made an effort to look perfectly groomed even when she took out the trash, according to her mother, who appeared on Forensic Files. WoW! The Dallas Morning News revealed that Patricia said, "All I can say is there's going to be justice," after waiting for 12 years of pain of losing her children. Yaser Said is accused of killing his two daughters in 2008. Fact is she wasnt and all of her alibis were proven to be lies. Nataly Keomoungkhoun, Engagement/Breaking News reporter. In another peculiar turn of events, LAPD had failed to preserve the evidence when Jerome Scotts body was found two days after his murder. Had there been a switch? But unfortunately other than God only two people know exactly what really happened and one is not alive. Mr Steve J Stable situation. This response of yours neatly sums up your dogmatic view of her guilt despite so much evidence to the contrary. You seem to have a fragile ego. "The one thing I am guilty of is bringing the person who committed this crime to Vermont, and for that, I'm truly sorry" Allen Prue said in an apparent reference to his wife during his December sentencing. Theyre more than happy to exaggerate and speculate the details of the crime, which serves to attract more viewers who (like you) seem to be happy to believe it all. And this doesnt apply to your opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. They dont need to make money??? Im inclined to think both Rorrer and Routier are guilty. One lengthy sentence which goes on and on and concludes with one of my sentences from a previous comment! . This story has been shared 114,982 times. More than 20 years after her conviction, Patricia Rorrer still has advocates working to exonerate her. If you look at the crime scene picture, only parts of the mother seem preserved. A lot of these documentaries feature most of the theories suggested by the cops and prosecution which were most damaging to her case, but not a single person to substantiate Rorrers side, or to challenge their versions. The defense also criticized Irving Police and federal investigators, claiming they did not properly investigate the case or look for other suspects. Traupman died in 2016. Why would it be an irony for a person to express his opinion? This woman killed and is where she belongs! The Worldwide Womens Criminal Justice Networks website also points to a bombshell: In 2015, the Justice Department acknowledged that most of the team members from an FBI microscopic hair comparison unit gave prosecutors flawed data from 1980 to 2000 that could have unjustly contributed to a number convictions including Patricia Rorrers. Her diary certainly indicates some disturbed thinking. Remembering Patricia Cole, former copy editor at NPR : NPR She failed miserably to convince me, or anyone else who mattered, of her innocence. The investigation is a bit out of place, but the DNA test can be altered only if its made just from a pen, because otherwise it is not possible, only if they said they did it and didnt actually do it, which would be quite difficult because it would mean complicity between many persons. Patricia had a violent past and was absolutely positively the killer. In April 2019, 69-year-old Patricia was found guilty of second-degree murder and the use of a firearm in the commission of a felony. She is right where she belongs for now until she meets satan in the fury of hell. Ls HUe7C22R>_%m~e5?h Patricia made daily phone calls every day but made no calls at all the day before, of and after Joannes murder as she was traveling and knew her phone could track her location. Its nothing short of a feeble stab hoping to impress but really amounts to splitting hairs, or to put it another way, hot air with no substance. Walmart woe. Maybe then you will see the wrongful conviction! You are not expressing an opinion but making an assertion or claim of fact: [I] have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. You are claiming innocence as fact there is no doubt shes innocent. After relocating to Pennsylvania, Patricia met the 6-foot-2-inch Andrew in a restaurant. The reason Interpol was involved is because all three had different European citizens, as a result of which it was very difficult to follow the thread of the event. She didnt kill those two boys and TX knows, but they made too much noise about it, hence this is probably the real reason that Darlie hasnt been put to death 24-25 yrs later. It was her father, Yaser Said who committed the crime of killing his two innocent teen daughters. It cost me a lot of money, I even put advertisements in the paper down in Puerto Rico looking for her.. No Jail Time for Former Corrections Officer and Friend Who Together Breached the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6. According to court documents, Yassein and Islam Said had been communicating with Yaser Said since Jan. 1, 2008, to help him evade capture. I dont think so. Theyre more than happy to exaggerate and speculate the details of the crime, which serves to attract more viewers who (like you) seem to be happy to believe it all. Lawrence Slaughter is currently serving a life sentence in Calipatria State Prison for the murder of Jerome Scott as well. Its sad that some people just cant move on and continue to feel that what they want is going to be THEIRS regardless. This FBI report, of the hairs being unable to yield a DNA result because of the absent root material, was never revealed to Rorrers defence. Shock, Gloria Smith, the sister of the lost-and-found woman, said at the press conference. Yaser Abdel Said, 63, was arrested Wednesday by agents in the small town of Justin, about 36 miles northwest of Dallas, officials said. Its barely visible in the picture. I hope she rots in hell. I've been thinking about them the last two weeks every morning when I wake up and close my eyes," she said. Someone had shot Joann in the face with a .22-caliber pistol, then beaten her about the head hitting her 19 times in all with a blunt object. Hardly an argument, more a figment of your overconfidence in your opinion. I believe the answer to your question is in my comment above. Nataly is the lead writer on Curious Texas and a breaking news reporter. I thought the justice system in my state and the people were narrow-minded and corrupt. Lie detectors are pseudo science. DNA also doesnt lie. Re Sells, the problem viz some serial killers is in exaggerating the number as a badge of honour. When they were getting ready to drive away, a police car pulled up behind them and checked their car. WebPatricia Lynne Rorrer made for a good suspect. She said that she has no idea why her ex-husband killed her daughters. Ive followed and made a study of this case for more than twenty years and have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. guilty Weak wages. Remember, killers have the advantage over investigators. The difference between the cases was that the child was not injured and the individual wrote down the details of the plan in a notebook, but otherwise it seems extremely similar to me. Janet Marcelin, a business owner, said the police had her rehearse and record a fake confession after intimidating and harassing her during the investigation. After an hour Id call anyone whod listen to me including police! guilty And in a piece of salacious testimony, Patricia Rorrers half sister, Sandra Ireland, said that in May 1995, about six months after the murder, their mother, Patricia Chambers, stopped by the house and asked her to hold onto or hide a gun, or both. The obvious, if moot, response to this is to observe that her conviction wasnt based on inaccurate documentaries but on trial. From what Ive seen its pretty obvious Patricia did do that to this poor woman and the baby. Jenkins' assailant Patricia Prue was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole on Friday after deciding to plead guilty the day before to charges of aggravated attempted murder, kidnapping and conspiracy. There is pendency of DNA investigation for Routier. After one bullet didnt kill Joann, the gun locked up, so Patricia had to beat her to death, according to the prosecution. A few fries short of a Happy Meal, that one. Nine. "Yaser Said, you're a devil. Stop. Its his hair (dirty blond and roughly 8 inches in length) that was found in Joanns hand. WebShe is as guilty as her husbandshe KNEW that her husband would kill these girlsshe even STATED that he would kill the girlsand yet she lied to them to get them to return to Texas And the obvious answer is not as you claim. But otherwise, extremely similar, a single bullet fired into the head, the woman later beaten to make sure she died, the hair, which had remained in the bracelet of our victim in this case, the way it was executed outside the house in a wooded area, at the command of the gentleman who did not want to soil his house, and the child who in our case was abandoned in the car. I didnt know about the supposed SIDS death of Rorrers first-born. Pat will spend the rest of her natural life in prison where people like her belong. Mal told Keith Morrison that Patricias dance teacher originally confirmed her alibi that she was in class on the day of the murder, then changed his mind. They were telling the truth and revealing the type of person she was, a person that definitely would kill out of jealousy and revenge. Marsicovetere cited studies done by several doctors during pretrial proceedings, saying that they determined Patricia Prue suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder and might suffer from dissociative identity disorder as well. My biggest issue is the day the phone call came in, and the fact that the prosecutor deliberately misrepresented the facts. According to William G. Kelley, director of the Law Offices of the Orange County Associate Defender, Patricia did not receive a fair trial. She didnt need to have owned all the guns she ever used, nor to have owned the gun she in fact used. Patricia and her husband broke up after the babys death. This article can also be seen at crimereport.com. This is the most ridiculous take ever! These two offenses were classified as felonies when they should have been only misdemeanors, since the property stolen was valued under $400. If they were unable to get a DNA reading the first time, why the need for a second examination? And Andrews explanation of how the intruder got in through the basement door seemed contrived, according to Grube, who gave an interview to Wrong Man, a 2020 true-crime docuseries from the Starz network, which produced two episodes called The Hang Up about the Rorrer case. The womans disappearance became a missing person case with the Ross Township Police Department that sat on the shelf, lacking progress, for decades. According to Arletta Wright, Patricia needs to be driven because she has been legally blind since the age of 16. She took out the woman who replaced her. But then again I havent actually SEEN the evidence. I have to wake up every morning with the freedom that God gave me knowing that my sister is incarcerated for life and that my lies put her there, Larry wrote in a letter to the LAPD after he had been freed. Jenkins' violent death shocked residents of the Northeast Kingdom, including Gerta Blasczyk of St. Johnsbury. Probably by the jeans and the boots. "Most of the community feels bad for the child To see that in the United States bugs me. Or did they? Patricia Lynne Rorrer made for a good suspect. Plus, he had only a minimal life insurance policy on Joann and he passed polygraphs, according to The FBI Files: Family Secrets. Rest in peace Joann and Alex. Thats all for this post. Let me simplify this for you in religion, one is taught there is a God. I fail to see exactly why someone cant have an opinion which he/she sees as fact. The media love the femme fatale., FBI lab blunder. Search it out and check for yourself. I wonder, did they ever perform a DNA test on the baby, to verify paternity? I thought the same. We've received your submission. Hate Crimes Prevention Act and 45 counts of using a firearm Theres also the matter of a woman who suddenly remembered she saw Joann with another man at a Food Mart store five days after the disappearance. you dont want to fall off and hurt your oversized ego. j} [gut('bIKL|kY4`a;]MQ p2x $kw. Senate Bill 1399, the compassionate release bill signed into law a year ago, allows prisoners who are permanently and medically incapacitated to be released from prison and into the care of family and caretakers. This is all BS.She did it. The difference was made by the investigation, Interpol has some good detectives who do not play with peoples freedom and who do not use American techniques such as pictures, lets compare hair color after pictures bullshit, not even with the performance of todays cameras such a thing is not allowed, the issue of dismantling the alibi only with indirect evidence, like that her name was not in the notebook, a European court would withdrew it immediately, you cant go with a thing like this, its called inconclusive proof, even the fact that one of the witnesses said that the business was not opened where she said it was that day, its inconclusive, the accused can say that he/she forgot, was there and left, and his alibi I dont know how it was verified, but what should been verified first were the contacts between him and her, if he contacted her before that, if she had been contacted from public phone for example before the murder, how many times, when etc, if he was near the places where she was until the murder, things like that. And NOBODY saw her at all? That, as well as measurements of the babys head (revealing the infant to be of a more advanced age) very much suggest they were killed some considerable time after what was believed at her trial. Phone records confirmed Patricia placed the earlier call from North Carolina, not Pennsylvania. If that really is the case, the husbands alibi for a date months before becomes irrelevant. She wanted all men to give her attention but she couldnt have everyones attention, especially ANDREWS!!! SHE IS NOT GUILTY OF THESE CRIMES. On Instagram, I found a post for a two-part Win at All Costs podcast featuring journalism professor Bill Mousheys interviews with Patricia Rorrer from prison in December 2019. Unbloody vehicle. The fact that her jeans were unbuttoned and unzipped. Patricia Dial-a-problem. A Dallas jury unanimously found Yaser Said guilty of killing his two teen daughters on Tuesday. He would be alive today if it were not for Patricia Rorrer. The mild-mannered Sarah died in 2019 at the age of 83. A Pennsylvania woman who went missing more than 30 years ago in a case that stumped authorities who later declared her legally dead has been found living in a nursing home in Puerto Rico.
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